E-mail. The president of the 232-team ECA, Andrea Agnelli, … After all, most English clubs started over 100 years ago, so the game was the same for all back then. I’m glad I saw us win the league finally because if this comes off and Liverpool are involved it’ll make it a lot easier to walk away. Or that PSG more than doubled the transfer record in a single swoop, whilst also buying their rival’s best player in a shady deal? Think about it - generally speaking, away teams in the Champions League have no shortage of away fans – and that happens on WEEK days. Even more money made available, and bigger transfers were splashed. There are other examples which aren’t as noteworthy, such as RB Leipzig, but that hasn’t yielded results as great as the previous ones. You don't consider that the same thing would happen 10 years down the line when the national leagues just become dominated by the next big teams. But is that really the case? Enter the NFL Challenge contest on the FOX Bet Super 6 app, where this week there are two Super 6 games and two prizes of $250,000 and one new Ford F-150 truck! That was a bit of a long read perhaps. Now I ask you to envision the following scenario: An ESL exists. Like it or not, the big clubs drive the gargantuan rights fees that keep all of the clubs shitting in silk. That would immediately elevate European football. ... as part of a Super Wild Card Weekend that promises to ... conceding a whopping 471 yards per game and on a path to smash the National Football League… Home of the English Premier League on Reddit. Also only teams of the “top 5 … facebook twitter reddit link. It’s not ever going to happen, let’s be honest. Same here. Also if you group the 5 groups geographically, travel distances can be kept short. No one wants that. Not only that but now PSG no longer has a goal difference of a staggering +79, beating mid clubs and below for silly numbers. Bear in mind that of these 20, Bayern Munich have won FOURTEEN, that's 70% of the titles over 2 decades to one club. In my opinion, the rest of Europes top leagues should hope to follow the Premier League by having around 5/6 legitimate title contenders. Might actually be more effective. Regardless, soon after Chelsea came Manchester City. I thought I would expand on it here. In all likelihood, the Europa League should cease to exist, and the new Champions League would retain its format and week schedule, but with different clubs. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Chelsea will be seen for some as the biggest culprits in guaranteeing that football could never return to the days of true competitiveness, as they came from mid-table status to champions in a whim when Roman Abramovic took over the club and splashed around silly money to get some the best players (and coach) that Europe had to offer. Chelsea have won both the Premier League AND the champions league; whilst both PSG and Man City have won, and in some cases, dominated their domestic leagues. Wenger: European Super League would 'destroy' the Premier League. Florentino Perez is known to be leading the charge in hopes of organizing a European Super League made up of the 18 biggest clubs across Europe’s big five leagues. Seeing Barcelona play Chelsea twice a season would kind of break the magic, no? The European Super League. And lastly, I enjoy the interesting matchups that the cup format allows. Snapchat. By Seb Stafford-Bloor 18 February 2020. Liverpool beat Tottenham 2-0 in the Champions League final days after Chelsea cruised to a 4-1 win over Arsenal in the Europa League final. The top clubs would get even richer with this deal. Not only that but in England there would still be a need for televised matches in the new Premier League, just as there is now for Championship matches (lower division if you’re not aware). And they rule european football. The Super League would have 20 teams and each country would have x amount of teams represented based on the country’s UEFA coefficient, a pre-determined fixed amount (2-3), or something else. The Super League teams would not participate in their domestic league anymore but would compete in … Man City now has to compete directly against Barcelona and Juventus for a title, as does Chelsea, as does any other rich and top club that has been sweeping leagues away for fun. Added to a handsome trophy, the winners earn a spot in the group stage of the UEFA Champions League in the subsequent season. Did someone, last summer, expected Arsenal to win the league? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Realistically speaking, around 75% of clubs in any given league has simply no feasible chance of winning the national league. The name of the real contenders vary from time to time but the EPL hadnt had 6 legitimate title contenders at the same time. Villareal and Betis could be fighting to be champions. Domestic football keeps the game alive. If it happens, I'll support a club from my native country. For seemingly most people, an aberration, for others, an unrealistic dream. E-mail. A subreddit for news and discussion of Liverpool FC, a football club playing in the English Premier League. This is the leverage. AC Milan, Juventus and Inter Milan are expected to be the Italian representatives in the tournament. The latter, PSG, has won 5 titles out of the last 6. How are Tottenham legitimate candidates when their best result ever in the EPL is having finished once 2nd? You preserve the nation league, title and everything. It’s obvious that now all the international money that mostly goes to the Premier League, would be thrown at the new ESL. If you look in 20 year periods back to ww2 I'm sure the same could still be said, with the exception of clubs being switched around because teams reap the rewards of their dominance. Tldr but I also think it would be bad for some of the leagues like seria a for example if you remove all the current big teams and put them in ESL, but with regional leagues you'll have neighbouring big teams play against one another, i.e. Leeds Rhinos and Wigan Warriors have won nine of the past 10 Grand Finals. Take the top 4 away from La Liga? If they can rip that apart, for profits. And because the standings of the national league on the first half decide the composition of the CL in the second half, there'd regularly be excitement of facing new/different opponents. How a European Super League will destroy football as we know it. Plus, let’s not forget that there would be a relegation and promotion to be made out of the ESL, which means an extra competitive edge for clubs not in it. I think a good middle ground might be to have it similarly to the Brazilian system (full disclosure, I don't 100% understand it haha). User account menu. That was interesting. Help: Live soccer results at Soccer 24 offer soccer live scores and results, cups and tournaments, providing also goal scorers, soccer halftime results, red cards, goal alerts and other soccer live score information from Greece - Super League 2020/2021. I think PL clubs are keeping the door open so that they get more power in the PL. The thing is that the EPL doesnt have 5/6 legitimate title contenders. Change the top national flights to smaller leagues with only ~10 teams, that play September-December. Espanyol - Osasuna. Imagine playing those same teams 2-3 times a year every year. It would destroy so many leagues which in the long run would destroy the development of those National Teams. Problem with a European Super League is that it will lead to a European Super-Super League & so on until all that's left is Real Madrid & Barcelona playing each other 40 times a season. However, who is to say that some agreement couldn’t be formed, that a percentage of the ESL’s earnings would have to go directly to the other leagues in Europe? You underestimate the pull and power of money. The steps the Champions League and Europa have taken have already made it incredibly difficult for smaller teams to have glamour ties. 3 weeks ago England, Premier League 0 444 Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal Full Match replay, Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal football Highlights, download match football Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal soccer for free, Brighton … Take away City, Utd, Chelsea, etc, and Everton and Leicester will start to dominate in a couple of years as their much larger financial resources are quickly converted into unassailable advantages and their newfound success starts to create that deadly loop of the better players only wanting to play there. Football never really has been "balanced", not since the very beginning, and different things guage success for different clubs. In Scotland’s Premier League(or ship) you would have to go back to 1984-1985 league to get a winner (Aberdeen) other than Celtic and Rangers. Only 5 teams or so can be called elite. asked Ge. A European Super League. We just need to flat out boycott this bullshit and it'll go away. Same for the leagues. One could even have several tiers of European competition, so that teams 1-2 of the national league qualify to ESL1, 3-4 to ESL2 etc and they all play the same format in the second half. A European Super League. I dont get it. So why do fans seem to be opposed to this idea so vehemently? Take the current top 6 away from the EPL for example and the 5 billion dollar TV deal will drop down to less than half a billion instantly. Regardless, in this section I approach a few points that could be contentious. However, the top 1-2/3 teams of every league qualify to the CL/ESL which then has a total of around 50 teams split into 5 groups of 10, which play in a two-way league format January-April. Discussion. Dead rubbers all over the place. Espanyol - Osasuna. Or that almost an entire nation roots for Napoli because for one reason or another, they can’t stand Juventus winning YET again? In Greece’s First division (which has changed name and possibly format?) Denizlispor - Hatayspor. FANS ALLOWED. Juventus or Madrird 12th in the table with no prospect of winning half way into the season. OFFLINE Spain. It happens not because the current crop of teams somehow magically found ways to build these advantages but because of the very nature of the leagues: use a small initial advantage to win a couple of titles, attract better and more famous players, win again, attract bigger sponsors, start paying ever increasing wages thanks to the influx of money, attract even better players, attract even more sponsorships, etc etc. Yeah I think this is more likely in the near/mid future. This comes after German publication Der Spiegel professed that top clubs in Europe have held talks behind closed doors to create a tournament of such sort by 2021. Rennes is the only club from Europe’s big five leagues playing with more than 1,000 fans at home this week. I’ll move on straight to what I consider to be the biggest argument for the ESL: Let’s have a look at the last 20 years of Europe’s top four leagues title winners, in no particular order: In the Premier League’s last 20 years, there have only been 5 different winners – Arsenal, Chelsea, Leicester, Man Utd and Man City. OFFLINE Spain. Sky Sports are reporting that a number of football clubs from across Europe are in talks to form a 'Super League’ which will be a competition for about 12-18 clubs from England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain backed by a 5 billion euro financing package. With the exception of France’s Ligue 1, there have been at best 5 different champions in the last 20 years in the 9 leagues analyzed. Premier League, La Liga and many more Only the big clubs win. It would also devaluate the quality of the trophies. 288k But in any case like in Brazil yiou have national leagues (like the state leagues on BR) during one half and a European league (like the Brasileiro) in the second half of the year Something like that, Edit: honestly, I think this could work really well. And so on. AEK, Olympiakos and Panathinaikos. Press J to jump to the feed. It’s easy to argue they should stay as it is, so that the top clubs could still see some national action. Madrid, Jan 8, 2021 (AFP) - Third-division Cornella were rewarded for knocking Liga leaders Atletico Madrid out of the Spanish Cup with a home game against Barcelona in … News, results and discussion about the beautiful game. It was an institution and almost unthinkable to be usurped. ... Bartomeu said he accepted a proposal on Monday for Barcelona to play in "a future European Super League" which "would guarantee the … OFFLINE Spain. Even in the ESL, it would probably be dominated by a group of teams (Real, Barca, Bayern, etc) if a team like Arsenal struggle in the Prem, why would they fair any better against the top clubs of Europe. What happens? Embarrassing that this is even considered. Phew. Take Bayern Munich from the Bundesliga and Hoffenheim just might have a real chance of winning it. Or that in Spain the priority of the media and the league money distribution vastly rests between Barcelona and Real Madrid? The football subreddit. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. So, as it's possible to observe, it’s not as if Europe’s Leagues are very competitive as it is. 2.5m members in the soccer community. Problem with a European Super League is that it will lead to a European Super-Super League & so on until all that's left is Real Madrid & Barcelona playing each other 40 times a season. German news magazine Der Spiegel claims it has proof that seven of Europe's biggest clubs held secret talks about forming a new breakaway competition. That percentage is actually lower as it doesn’t count the fact that in the last 20 years many clubs have been promoted and demoted, and so that percentage could possibly go as low as half of that. Malaga - Granada-18 January, Tomorrow. Posted by 1 day ago. It wont be as exciting or prestigious anymore. Although it seems the top heavy aspect of modern football is weighting on fans. We know they want it. Id rather watch top teams fight in a league format, which is more accurate as to who's the best team of the season. The European Super League. Snapchat. Well they are digging the graves of European football, the PL, and the club all at the same time. Copa del Rey. I guess it's like a mini super regional league, then still have CL. I will not be a Liverpool fan anymore if they do this. Log In Sign Up. All three clubs hadn’t, for years, been anywhere near close winning the league. Etc etc. President of FIFA Gianni Infantino has revealed that any player who will feature in the rumored European Super League risks being banned from the World Cup. By Seb Stafford-Bloor 18 February 2020. Champions League UEFA; Europe League UEFA; Super Cup UEFA; National teams. All the leagues mentioned have had or still have top clubs monopolizing the achievement of winning the league. That's 80% of them. No league has that. Problem is this. Football may never really be fair ever again (if it ever was), but in an ESL, Bayern no longer gets the league by February. Twice in a league match every year, or lyon vs bayern, Celtic vs United, Dortmund vs Ajax. You would not only be rooting for your club to win your national league, but also access to the ESL. The French club expects 5,000 for its first Champions League … The balance of the CL being a cup competition is okay, but a league could absolutely destroy it. Although it must be said that overtime, top-clubs could make those cups unbalanced with the competitive edge of the ESL present. The issue in much of Europes top leagues is lack of competition. In Serie A’s Last 20 years, there have only been 5 different winners - Inter, Juventus, Lazio, Milan and Roma. The 16 clubs not invited would face almost immediate bankruptcy when the tv money shifted away from the domestic league to the SuperLeague. Soccer Streams is dedicated to the highest quality of free reddit soccerstreams and all other soccer related Leagues / Exclusive free HD quality at SStreams100. Liverpool are one of the most decorated football clubs in all of world football, and are the reigning Premier League and FIFA Club World Cup champions. 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